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May 26, 2005

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Lenn,

Well put! Another thing, didn't that letter sound a bit canned, like a letter written by an advocacy group you could just copy and send off? Hmmmm?

You know...now that you say that...I think you're absolutely right.

I guess you're more aware than the paper's editor is :)

Regardless...I'm glad I live in New York.

Kids today can get their own credit cards. Just go to any college campus where the card companies practically throw the cards at the students and the parents don't even get notified. But that irrelevant to the issue. Colorado is one of several states that have allowed ordering of wines over the Internet. It there was a real problem with underage ordering, why hasn't it been brought to our attention? Now, that the Supreme Court has made their decision allowing Internet ordering, are teenagers all of a sudden going to start ordering wines over the Internet? I don't think so.

You're right, minors CAN get their own credit cards...but that's not what the letter writer was talking about :)

Also...is there sort of age verification tied to a credit card purchase. If an 18-year old tried to buy booze with his or her credit card...would it work?

Flat out...you're right...minors aren't buying boutique wines from mini-producers...it's just not happening.

Amen. Guns are easier to get then wine.

Besides, alot of these states could ship "intra-state" wine shipments. Thats what makes the "inter-state" ban illegal. The ruling says "if you allow intra-state, then you can't ban inter-state"...in not so many words.

BTW: how is a 16 year old at the local Safeway more qualified then the pain-in-the-ass UPS guy that checks my ID all the time?

Go get 'em, Lenn.

As one of the attorneys involved in the very first suit to challenge the ban on wine shipping (Indiana in 1998), I have heard all these BS arguments before. They are made more often by the wine and beer wholesalers than the states. "Briggs Phariss" could easily work for the wholesale industry or a lobbying group representing the industry. He parrots the "party line" awfully well.

Well written Lenn- as a Social worker in a middle school I don't think there will be a charge of students to the computer lab to start ordering wine. Schools deal with computer issues everyday and believe me it isn't wine some(not all) kids are researching or ordering. It's not as exciting to "look" at or "listen to" over the internet as some things are... I think these surfers are alot more resourceful if they are tempted to aquire alcohol for themselves. Yes, underage drinking IS a concern, however I think there are other people and places we NEED to be concerned about that are impacting our youth where we could be expending this type energy. FMIL on her soap box.

I've had a couple of young guys approach me in supermarkets to buy alcohol for them. You tell them no way, that its illegal and that you could get into more trouble they they probably will, and they just laugh at you. I seriously doubt these guys would wait for the UPS guy to bring them wine, they wanted something a little stronger!

Mike

For parents, the new credit card act can indeed be a welcome change as the changes impose a reasonable limit to young credit cardholders without depriving them of their right to build up an early credit history.

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