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January 19, 2010


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All good points, Evan. However, I take offense at your opinion of "Cabin Boy". This was- perhaps- Chris Elliot's most tour-de-force performance on the silver screen.

Joe - Blasphemy! Chris Elliot was actually useful in Groundhog Day, one of my favorites. Cabin Boy was a classic, all right.

Evan, I understand your concern. However with all due respect to our friends on the left coast, if we ever had a contest for exhibiting insufferably maniacal and crazy behavior in the wine industry, we wouldn't stand a chance against California.

There are plenty of opportunities for an educated person to learn a great deal about the wines of New York - that is if they care to seek them out. The loud and bombastic will always get more attention than the subtle no matter what the media. Can we do more? No question. But it does say something that the wines are doing most of the talking right now and many people are listening.

Cabin Boy was awesome... when I was 12.
And the maturity level in question pretty much agrees with that statement.

I must be the only person on Earth who genuinely doesn't know who you folks are talking about...

California suffers from the great delight of having fantastic wines come from several great growing regions in its state.

NY wines as quality continues to rise will make their way to the left coast and gain the recognition they deserve.

Evan- well played on "Groundhog Day". And, I have a guess on who the "Cabin Boy" winery is, but I don't think they are terrible. I must be thinking of the wrong producer (which suggests that maybe things are better than they seem?)

I dont know what they are talking about either, all I know is "THESE PIPES ARE CLEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAN!"

Great piece. Excellent thought provoking points, as always. I love how you are pushing the envelope, bringing NYS wine and this blog to the next level. It's a shame about the second question, but maybe we need ignore the issue and challenge every other vineyard to strive to quiet the empty barrel. I think that is maybe what you are trying to do.

Your second sentence is amazing and well put, perfectly well put. And the rest of the comment is so true and something I never thought of, being subtle is a good thing, eventually people get a headache from the loud ones, and turn to the softer, more rounded person for advice and conversation.

Lastly, sad to see that there are so many references to Cabin Boy, but I guess it could be worse.

As a blogger about wines from a region other than CA, WA, and OR, I can really appreciate your sentiments. All of these under-represented wine regions need to do a better job of reaching out and promoting themselves. There is only so much that you and I can do.

I was lucky enough to spend a couple of weeks tasting in several areas of California. Almost universally I found a great deal of interest in the fingerlakes. The individuals I spoke with were very impressed with how much press we have been getting in the all the major publications. Thankfully I did not encounter any one that seemed to be familiar with you know who.

Justin -

Good to hear, and clearly there are many open minds that need to be reached. Regarding Voldemort, certainly I could have experienced a small sample size. Let's hope. But regardless, great opportunities abound. So much to gain in reaching new people and new markets.

Mich -

To some extent, writers like yourself are doing that for the wineries. So are we. That's all well and good, but eventually the winners of the future will be the ones who know how to do it themselves.

I enjoy hearing the banter and the generalizations; "I hear reds suck there" or "whites are great here". The bottom line is that California and New York both produce varietal wines that they shouldn't. Period.

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