By Lenn Thompson, Executive Editor
For a significant portion of their potential customer base, a winery's website is the first point of contact and communication. It's the front lines in the battle for mind share and dollars.
Most New York wineries have websites nowadays -- even if many are painfully out of date -- but how well do wineries monitor leads and inquiries that come in via their website or email?
We wanted to find out.
So, over the last six to eight weeks, more than 170 New York wineries -- across the Erie, Finger Lakes, Hudson Valley, Long Island and Niagara regions -- received an email from Brian Sedgwick. The emails were always sent on a Tuesday and in them, Brian let the wineries know that he'd be touring their region the upcoming Saturday and Sunday. He also asked four basic questions:
- What time do you open and close on weekends?
- How much is your tasting fee and how many wines do we get to taste?
- What other wineries around yours would you recommend?
- Do you have recommended restaurants nearby?
Who is Brian Sedgwick and why was he visiting so many New York wine regions during such a short period of time?
Brian Sedgwick isn't real. I made him up and created an email address from which these emails went out... and the results have been nothing short of fascinating -- and in many cases disheartening.
We're still crunching the numbers, but before we start publishing the results, I wanted to outline our process.
First, we used the winery lists on the New York Wine & Grape Foundation website as our starting point. We focused on wineries -- removing mead and cider producers. We also used the email addresses listed on the NYWGF website unless a different email address was listed on the winery's individual website. In cases where more than one email address was listed on a winery website, we used the most "generic" one.
As I said, all emails were sent out on Tuesdays and -- with some help from our technical director, Brian Yanosik -- every winery in a particular region received the email at the same time. We then tracked whether or not we got a response, when we got it and how many of the four questions posed were answered (this proved tricky for seasonal regions where a significant number of wineries close for the winter).
One other item of note -- if a winery's website didn't list an email address, but instead had a contact form, we used the email address posted on the NYWGF site. We thought it important that every winery (in a region) get the same message the same way at the same time. And, if I really were visiting a wine region for the first time, I'm much more likely to send out a mass email than I am to fill out a dozen or more online forms.
We'll start publishing region-by-region results next week, focusing on some high-level response rates and highlighting some of the best responses.
If you're a winery owner/manager/winemaker and you're curious how your winery handled the inquiry (or not), just let us know and we'll share the full details privately.
Hi Lenn, we'd like to know how Billsboro responded. Thanks. Kim & Vinny
Posted by: Kim Aliperti | March 21, 2011 at 04:39 PM
Love this idea and can't wait to hear what you come up with. My husband and I visited 150 wineries in 150 days last year while we researched our Virginia winery travel guide App, and I sent out advance emails whenever we had a complicated itinerary that required multiple overnights and long distances. My emails were to confirm that they'd be open, what their hours were, and that I had their correct address. I did not tell them we were doing research for an App (I wanted the typical visitor's experience when we visited).
I'd estimate that 75% of the wineries got back to us with two to three days. Many had friendly words of encouragement. I was impressed.
Looking forward to seeing how New York does!
Posted by: Nancy@VaWineInMyPocket | March 21, 2011 at 05:29 PM
A nice project! I sent a few NY wineries questions and (polite) complaints about the use of synthetic stoppers and the poor aging ability of the resulting wines. In response I received everything from a long, carefully considered mea culpa to, well, nothing. I hope your findings have some impact on the way producers respond. Now, if we could only get them to pay more attention to the content and updating of their websites....
Posted by: Cyclist | March 21, 2011 at 08:35 PM
Love this experiment. I can't wait to see the results. I am curious how the Michigan wineries would do with this?
Posted by: Shannon Casey | March 21, 2011 at 08:52 PM
Love this idea -- genius. Can't wait to read the results!
Posted by: Sasha | March 21, 2011 at 10:06 PM
Lenn and NYCR team - Great idea. I look forward to reading the results. No doubt several wineries are clinching their cheeks after reading this post. :) Will be interesting if one region was notably separated either way - quick, positive responses versus no responses.
Clearly this should be done here in Virginia.
Cheers bro!
Posted by: Frank | March 21, 2011 at 10:32 PM
I respect this effort because these vineyards need this feedback. I am not in the industry, but, being enthusiastic about NY Wine, I have probably joined 15 wine clubs, mostly LI based. big disparity between good and bass website strategies, like more businesses in America.
takes courage to do this. kudos.
Posted by: Steve g | March 21, 2011 at 10:47 PM
Kim: More than happy to send our findings to you and Vinny!
Everyone else: Thank you very much for the enthusiasm. There have been some emails flying in the background as well and they make me want to clarify a few things.
We didn't do this to "get" anyone. This isn't a witch hunt and we'd never publish the results in a malicious way.
We understand that many of New York's wineries are closed this time of year and/or are staffed not enough people with more than enough other work to get done. And, this is just a single email during a single week in the off season -- this is not intended to be a definitive study.
It's a mere snapshot to get a general sense for how well New York wineries are paying attention to their general email addresses.
Times are challenging. Wine promotion groups and wine trails are losing funding. Responding to an email from an already-interested potential customer is free, except for a little time and attention.
The results of this project, which will be published on Monday, are disappointing. New York wineries can and should do better -- but we're not going to publish a list of the wineries that didn't respond to the emails. Instead, we're going to give some region-by-region metrics and share examples of some of the best responses.
Posted by: Lenn Thompson | March 22, 2011 at 10:18 AM
Sneaky. I love it!
Posted by: 1WineDude | March 22, 2011 at 11:46 AM
Well, now that I read this I understand why I never got a reply/response from "Brian Sedgwick". Usually when I send out an e-mail to inquiring potential customers I receive back a thank you email.
I had a few customers on the morning that the email was sent out and was not able to respond to "Brian" until almost 3 on that same afternoon. I sent an e-mail to Brian telling him which wineries I recommenced, explained the tasting fee structure at Heron Hill, gave him 5 great restaurants in/on/around the lake and asked him to stop by and let me know how his trip was going.
I was kinda sad that i never got to meet "Brian"....but now I understand why!
Posted by: www.google.com/accounts/o8/id?id=AItOawmXdQ5lmswEOtofvc4mEZxjIUrjqzTuqRc | March 22, 2011 at 04:00 PM
You know, you're right -- when we do this again, we should thank those that write back.
That's good feedback.
Posted by: Lenn Thompson | March 22, 2011 at 04:04 PM
Respectively, I find this to be a waste of energy. The wine industry is an industry full of artisans and farmers doubling as small business owners, and most people visit to learn about their wines, understand their progress over time, see the beautiful land, meet cool people, experience the romance, and perhaps get a bit tipsy. What happens if a winery gets bad grades in the highly anticipated Sedgwick Report . . . the winery gets that feedback, hopefully someone doesn't lose their job, and they go back to making wine and continuing to be understaffed having every employee contribute to whatever task is needing to be done. Personally, if they didn't respond to my email promptly, I would deal with that but would never blacklist them and only go to the good responders wineries. In fact, I would probably find it quirky and expected from a bunch of artisans and farmers. Therefore, I see no use in this effort or the resulting info. The well-staffed helpdesks and web teams you're perhaps looking for are at the larger companies that are fracking the land and trying to get wine sold in grocery stores.
Posted by: WynOmite | March 22, 2011 at 04:47 PM
WynOmite: Thanks for the comment. I'm sure that there is a portion of the population -- both in the industry and outside it -- that agree with you that this was a big waste of time.
I happen to disagree, obviously, and I think I've made my case -- and will detail it a bit more next week.
A couple things now though. First, we will absolutely not be publishing a "blacklist." We've heard from some people -- jokingly or not -- afraid for their jobs and we'd never take that chance. I don't think it contributes to the discourse to list the names anyway.
Secondly, you won't find out this information because we're not publishing names, but you're absolutely incorrect with your assertion that the larger wineries are more likely to respond while the farmer-driven wineries are not. I can tell you for certain that some of the more prompt, best responses came from some of the state's smallest producers. And some of the wineries that didn't respond at all are some of the larger, better-staffed and more technologically advanced ones.
Thanks again for the comment and perhaps you can add to the discussion next week when we publish the results.
Posted by: Lenn Thompson | March 22, 2011 at 04:52 PM
Hey Lenn,
I'd be interested in seeing any feedback you haveabout Sheldrake. Thanks!
Dave Breeden
Posted by: Dave Breeden | March 22, 2011 at 06:17 PM
This is a great test for the NYWGF and the validity of their involvement in NY wines. Love it.
Posted by: Mark Grimaldi | March 22, 2011 at 09:05 PM
I'd be interested in seeing how Arrowhead Spring replied.... We have had some major system changes here - spring is "upgrade time", though that should not have affected responses to inquiries.
Posted by: Duncan Ross, Arrowhead Spring Vineyards | March 25, 2011 at 07:54 PM
Hi Lenn,
could you share with me how McGregor Vineyard fared?
Thanks much,
John
Posted by: John McGregor | March 31, 2011 at 02:46 PM
We strive to always respond to every customer email promptly, and almost always reply the same day. When I questioned my staff about an email from "Brian Sedgwick", nobody remembered responding. I have also not been able to find an email from "Brian Sedgwick" in our email system.
I'm wondering, did you collect any information on how many emails were actually delivered and/or opened by the recipients? This would be a critical piece of information in interpreting the results of your exercise.
What method did you use to send the emails? (Individually sent, bcc, bulk email system?). Many people who send emails to their opt-in mailing lists would consider an open rate of 25% pretty good. After all, a good number of emails sent this way end up being filtered out and never make it to their destination. Considering that, a ~50% same day response rate to your email might actually have been pretty good.
I am feeling conflicted. On the one hand,I do hope that the email to [email protected] (the address at NYW&GF, and the recipient address of our contact form) arrived to our inbox, indicating that our email system is functioning properly with every email. On the other hand, if we did receive it, we may have dropped the ball.
Perhaps you could share Mr. Sedgwick's email address and some additional metrics about your email send methods, delivery, bounce and open rates so that we might more effectively search for Mr. Sedgwick's email and better determine which the case may be.
Thanks.
Posted by: FLWine | April 11, 2011 at 05:35 PM
FYI, "FLWine" is David Whiting, co-owner and winemaker at Red Newt Cellars on Seneca Lake. After his comment, he and I exchanged a series of emails.
The results aren't definitive, but it's entirely possible that Red Newt did not receive the email. We did have ONE email sent out that failed, but were unable to ascertain which it was. We obviously have no way to confirm whether the email was received or not.
Posted by: Lenn Thompson | April 12, 2011 at 09:22 PM